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A Third Round to the NBA Draft?

Think of the wild names that would come out of a third round

As the NBA and its owners met with the NBPA today an odd subject in the negotiations was broached. Chris Sheridan, over at his new site www.sheridanhoops.com, broke, earlier today, what the owners were proposing:

SheridanHoops.com has learned that NBA owners have proposed adding a third round to the annual draft, a proposal that the players’ union has countered by offering an array of changes to the draft that would help address the owners’ desire for more competitive balance.

Sheridan goes on to explain possible changes to the draft whereby a competitive balance would be the ultimate goal of the draft. One such proposal is that the 15 worst teams in the league be awarded all the eligible picks in the first round of the draft and the 15 best teams begin drafting with the first 15 picks in the second round. This can be considered lopsided at best but it very well lead to a competitive balance. However, the entire issue of rookie contracts would likely have to be rewritten. That may happen nonetheless depending on how negotiations pan out between the two sides as they (hopefully) move towards ending the lockout.

Another such change to the drafting structure that is mentioned is that teams with the eight worst records would receive a second first round pick. The second pick would come beginning with the 22nd selection in the first round. Teams with the eight best records would not receive a first round selection. However, those teams would reverse roles with the worst eight teams in the second round and receive two picks then.

All of this is slightly convoluted at this point. As these are merely proposals one should not put too much merit behind them becoming an actuality of the draft. However, it is one of the most interesting and curious proposals that has become known outside of the closed-door negotiations. Why would the owners want a third round added to the draft? Teams rarely utilize players taken late in the first round let alone the second round (San Antonio sticks out as a major exception).

The second round of the 2011 NBA Draft saw franchises reaching with their picks and selecting players that had little, if any, real hope of ever seeing playing time in the NBA. This is not the case for all the players that were taken but towards the end it became an absurd spectacle. Stuart Scott, who hosted the draft openly mocked some of the late picks because their names became so hard to pronounce. Scott was reffering to players such as Milan Mačvan from Serbia, Chukwudiebere Maduabum of Nigeria, Tanguy Ngombo from the Qatari League, and Ater Majok from Australia. It would be shocking if any of these players even came to the United States let alone to play in the NBA.

This late second round draft free-for-all led to quality college players being drafted late, Isaiah Thomas was taken last in the draft, while some, like Ben Hansbrough, were overlooked completely. If this is going to become a trend then why add a third round to the draft at all?

Competitive balance is just the owners’ and GM’s way of saying that they want a longer draft so that they can make wild draft picks while not missing out on talented players who would otherwise not be drafted. They want as much as they can but this does not seem like it will quell the frivolity that took place late in the 2011 draft. Not only did the teams appear to not really care much about who they drafted but the crowd bemoaned the picks as well and frequently broke out into chants targeted at Jeff Van Gundy, who was on ESPN’s broadcast team covering the event, and Adam Silver, the deputy commissioner of the NBA who announced the picks in the second round. Does the NBA really want to extend the draft to a third round?

Kurt Helin of NBC’s ProBasketballTalk points out that adding a third round to the draft could be costly for owners as well:

Theoretically a third round could capture those undrafted guys — but those are guys who need development, years in the D-League or Europe before finding their way to the NBA (most of the time). Do the owners plan to start picking up those development costs?

The short answer there is no. Not a chance. The lockout is all about, from the owners’ and NBA’s perspective, how the teams are losing money at an alarming rate and if the trend continues the NBA itself will cease to be solvent. How then can the addition of a third round improve the financial well-being of a league that is doomed, or so the owners would have us believe? Paying for more rookies, who will likely contribute little to a team, does not seem like the best idea towards returning to the black.

Long ago, like in the 1980s, the NBA had many more rounds to its draft but those days, much like Frankie Goes to Hollywood, are distant memories. Teams have shown that they are more willing to make wild far-reaching picks late in the draft rather than selecting a kid from a good college program who has the potential to contribute. A third round to the draft? Not until the teams and owners can prove that they are serious about the draft outside of the first round.

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NBA Lockout could send Influx of Young Talent Overseas

Samhan, like many Americans has found success overseas but the NBA is still the goal

The immediate impact of an NBA lockout is obviously a negative one. It stymies the league and will only serve to anger fans for many years. It is especially destructive to the league after what was widely accepted as some of the best and most competitive playoffs the league has seen in some time. Now, as the owners are on the verge of locking out the players, all fans can do is hope for a speedy resolution.

Though the league, owners, and current players will all be adversely affected in financial terms and in loss of fan support for a time, there is a real danger that there could be longterm, lingering damage done to the league beyond the coming season. If there even is one.

Development of draft picks and undrafted free agents will be hampered greatly. With a lockout in place teams would not be able to workout or hold practice with prospects they would potentially like to add to their roster. For young players this is essentially a life’s work gone to waste as they watch their dreams put on hold because of issues that are out of their control. For teams looking to improve their roster with an influx of young talent it stops them dead in their tracks. Without the ability to see how these players can develop their hopes of improving for the next season are dim.

With the lockout looming earlier this year, the NBA canceled the summer league programs that are so valuable in scouting potential prospects who have not been drafted or played overseas. The NBA, of course, said the cancellation of the summer leagues this year had nothing to do with the prospect of a lockout. Players such as Jeremy Lin and Patrick Beverley made NBA rosters because of their play in the Las Vegas Summer League last year. Unfortunately, the Miami Heat cut Beverley just before the start of the regular season to add aging veterans to surround their trio.

Due to the cancellation of the summer leagues, the Atlanta Hawks are currently holding a mini-camp for three days in order to evaluate their draft pick, Keith Benson and 17 other free agents. The full list of participants can be found here. One of the more notable names on the list is that of Omar Samhan. Samhan was a standout at St. Mary’s before going undrafted in 2010. He was able to showcase his talents that summer, though, as a member of the Dallas Mavericks’ Summer League team. He did not make the final roster cut as the team was a deep veteran group. His talents spoke for themselves however and he left for Lithuania to play in the Euroleague.

If the lockout persists for any lengthy amount of time and free agents and young players are cannot demonstrate their skills to NBA teams there could be a trend of more and more players looking to play overseas. Currently, Brandon Jennings is the most recognizable American player that chose to play overseas before being drafted by the Milwaukee Bucks. He will certainly not be the last though.

Ben Hansbrough, the brother of Tyler Hansbrough, who currently plays for the Indiana Pacers, went undrafted this year. Instead of waiting for the players and owners to come to some form of deal on the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, Hansbrough chose to forgo the NBA and signed a contract with German team FC Bayern München. It is not uncommon for undrafted players to go overseas to start their careers, however, it could become more and more common for higher profile players to do so as the labor talks continue to stall especially with American college players are seeing more and more Europeans being drafted.

One of the few hindrances to American born players playing in Europe, or elsewhere overseas, is that many leagues place a cap on the number of Americans that a team can have on its roster. Considering the number of options that a player could choose from in the European, Chinese, or ever Qatari (still unbelievable) markets, however, there will more than likely always be a spot and lucrative contract for them.

The NBA’s own Developmental League is also a possible target for players looking to break into the NBA. Despite the Summer League being canceled the D-League season will continue as scheduled. Yet, despite the D-League being directly affiliated with the NBA and its teams, it is not seen as that desirable of destination for some. The pay is minimal in comparison to what teams overseas might offer at less than $30,000 per year and the lifestyle is comparable to that of a minor league baseball players, traveling from small town to small town living out of a suitcase.

A lockout hurts the NBA. Much of what has been written and said about the CBA talks has centered around the financial state of the league and teams. Owners have been repeatedly beating the drum stating that their teams are losing money. That may very well be the case, but they are also circling their wagons to form a defense against the players. The only thing that is truly important is that each sides reach an agreement quickly. A prolonged dispute and work stoppage will hurt the level of young talent leaping for a chance to become a professional player in the NBA. Of course, the NBA will always be the end goal as long as it remains the best basketball league in the world. Other options are out there, however, and players have shown a willingness to see what other leagues have to offer. They will play overseas for a few years then try the NBA again. All they want is playing time and a chance to better themselves and their game. Yet, they cannot find that in the NBA if there is a lockout. The NBA must be a willing partner in the development of young talent if it hopes to keep its appeal as the destination for young basketball players in North America and around the world.

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